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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:38:00 -
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Yongtau Naskingar wrote:Jacabon Mere wrote:To research a Naglfar BPO from ML 8 to ML 9 is 22.7bil is it really intended to be this high. the 108 days part is understandable, but 22bil? 22 BILLION!!!!!! Thanatos to ME 9 in station: 19B. In POS: 102M (Both in pretty high indexed system) If yer going to do the crazy thing for high ME on caps, you need a POS.
Yes POSes are definitely the way to go. Btw which system was giving the cheap 102M research?
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
The Methodical Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.07.26 18:35:00 -
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Nolan Kotulan wrote:Mara Kell wrote:
I am complaining because CCP assured us that exactly what now has happened would not happen. When they cant change the game in a fair manner, why do they pretend to be able to do so?
Btw take a minute and watch the picture i have posted above. You will notice that the Archon BPO has at ME 0 1 and 2 exactly the same material imput AFTER the patch. So what was you point?
I watched the picture, and that's why I answered you what I answered you. Having same material imput at lower levels is less illogical and unfair that having the same at higher end levels. Now, the communication by CCP might be the problem, but certainly not the changes.
So you don't actually see a problem in it taking over a year to research one level of ML?
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
The Methodical Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.07.26 18:43:00 -
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Nolan Kotulan wrote:Joseph Soprano wrote:
So you don't actually see a problem in it taking over a year to research one level of ML?
Nope.
And from that answer you shall be judged. :)
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
The Methodical Alliance
42
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:21:00 -
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Gospadin wrote:Krystyn wrote:Before the patch all of my freighter BPOs were optimal and competitive compared to everyone else. Also the time and cost to improve BPOs was still significant roughly a month per single level of research and the isk cost was relatively low. The main cost was time you spent not using your BPO. Now the costs are astronomically high in both isk and time to improve your BPO to the optimum level. IMO, that's perfectly in-line with EVE's design philosophy. You get the bulk of the advantage in a short amount of time, and optimization to "perfect" requires specialization/focus. The high end industrialist (excepting those who already have ME10/TE20 BPOs) has to decide "do I spend my time researching this archon to ME10? Or is my money better spent on something else?" A player having to decide that is what makes up industrial gameplay in EVE.
Err. No. That's is wrong, post Crius the bulk of the benefit is to get the to 'perfect' below that there are a lot of blueprints that are just trash. To get the bulk of the benefit you have to stick them in research for a couple of years and pay at a cost of billions of isk and a wasted slot .
'A player having to decide' - the decisions were made by CCP not the players. Who knows during two years while the blueprint was in research CCP may have change the rules again which is a very real possibility! |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
The Methodical Alliance
42
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:24:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:Gospadin wrote:Krystyn wrote:Before the patch all of my freighter BPOs were optimal and competitive compared to everyone else. Also the time and cost to improve BPOs was still significant roughly a month per single level of research and the isk cost was relatively low. The main cost was time you spent not using your BPO. Now the costs are astronomically high in both isk and time to improve your BPO to the optimum level. IMO, that's perfectly in-line with EVE's design philosophy. You get the bulk of the advantage in a short amount of time, and optimization to "perfect" requires specialization/focus. The high end industrialist (excepting those who already have ME10/TE20 BPOs) has to decide "do I spend my time researching this archon to ME10? Or is my money better spent on something else?" A player having to decide that is what makes up industrial gameplay in EVE. Err. No. That's is wrong, post Crius the bulk of the benefit is to get them to 'perfect' below that there are a lot of blueprints that are just trash. To get the bulk of the benefit you have to stick them in research for a couple of years and pay at a cost of billions of isk and a wasted slot . 'A player having to decide' - the decisions were made by CCP not the players. Who knows during two years while the blueprint was in research CCP may have change the rules again which is a very real possibility!
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